Vietnam – Cambodia to Ho Chi Minh city

Vietnam – Cambodia to Ho Chi Minh city

May 28, 2009  |  Featured, General, Travel

Viet­nam was always on our list of coun­tries to visit, but I must admit to hav­ing been slightly nervous about it.  Not because it was Com­mun­ist or “dif­fer­ent” from home– by then, Cesca and I had been through all sorts of strange cul­tures includ­ing Muslim nations, East­ern Block style Com­mun­ist havens and even Aus­tralia.  What was actu­ally get­ting us nervous was the con­stant reports from our friends about the Viet­namese unfriend­li­ness.  Time and time again people, who had already been through Viet­nam, would dis­play a sort of nervous laugh and glance at each other before answer­ing our ques­tions.  This was exacer­bat­ing our reac­tion to another incid­ent right back before we even left Eng­lish shores.

To visit Viet­nam you need to pre­order your visa before we leave the UK, we were told, or they would make us come back home to get one.  Ok, Cesca went to the embassy and dropped off the forms and I went to col­lect them a few days later.  Like all Lon­don embassies, the Viet­namese embassy is a large white Edwar­d­ian look­ing build­ing in the heart of the leafy upmar­ket sub­urbs of cent­ral Lon­don.  It has that old fash­ioned build style that spoke of riches, as the rent on such a large patch of London’s soil must be stag­ger­ing.  I was admit­ted into the build­ing and dir­ec­ted to a teller-like booth behind which sat a very very rude man.

“You give me the form!” he screamed at me when I bid him good day.

“My wife already has done that, I am here to pick –“ I man­aged before he inter­rup­ted me.

“You fill out form!”

“I already have,” I said sternly, “I am here to pick up our passports”

He looked up at me lev­elly and, regis­ter­ing my face, star­ted flick­ing through pass­ports in the pile next to him.  He found mine and took out the next one, which I took to mean that it was Cesca’s.

“You give me 100 pounds now!”

I opened up my wallet.

“No credit card!” He yelled.

I handed over the amount in cash.  He took it and angrily stamped out a receipt and then pushed the items over the counter towards me.

“Thank you,” I said and opened the second pass­port to check it was indeed Cesca’s.

“You get the hell out of my embassy!” He said wav­ing me away.  He really said this.

I remem­ber wan­der­ing home after this abus­ive tirade and won­der­ing quite how I would find Viet­nam when I got there.  This worry was increased even fur­ther into the realms to actual dread when our visas ran out before we man­aged to get to Viet­nam.  This had been due to meet­ing some great people in Laos, who had eas­ily talked us into see­ing the south­ern part of the country.

As all trav­el­lers do in such times of dilemma, I con­sul­ted the Lonely Planet for advice; both online at their for­ums and the print edi­tion of the LP Cam­bodia. It cau­tioned us to relax.  Not only could we get a visa in Sian­nook­ville, the beach cap­ital of Cam­bodia, but we could get one same day.  The advice was proph­etic and our hotel arranged the entire ser­vice along­side my order­ing lunch while sun­ning myself in a deck­chair.  The pass­ports arrived back, visa ready, within two hours.  All for less than the UK visa cost and that had taken 3 days.

And I didn’t get shouted at by anybody!

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Good bye Cambodia

We hopped on the bus from Phom Peng to Ho Chi Min city.  After all the stor­ies of Viet­namese bur­eau­cracy and the cal­lous treat­ment metered out by its Lon­don con­tin­gent, I was expect­ing a night­mare bor­der cross­ing, per­haps even ques­tion­ing.  In actual fact the cross­ing was so relaxed that the entry stamp per­son for­got to stamp us and just waved us through and it was only when a guard smoking by the door into the coun­try poin­ted this out that we non­chal­antly went back and got the rub­ber pressing.

That was it.  So much for bor­der control.

The bus flew through the coun­tryside and dropped us off in the tour­ist dis­trict of Ho Chi Min city.  Again the lonely planet came to the fore, this time the LP First Time Asia, and we checked out the hotels lis­ted.  They all seemed fairly close, but you can never tell with LP maps as some are miles off.  A taxi driver offered to help,

“Oh that hotel,” he said smil­ing and whistled through his teeth eye­ing the amount of lug­gage we had – a lot.  “That is long way away, 25 minutes walk.”  He looked into the dis­tance in the hotels dir­ec­tion as though ima­gin­ing the walk through a desert.

“How much?” I asked.

“Oh…five dol­lar,” he said.

Cesca and I looked at each other and nod­ded.  We had just spent the bet­ter part of 2 months in South East Asia and we knew when we were being touted (“gouged” as it is called).  With a smile, we left the taxi driver, yelling con­stantly redu­cing num­bers, after us a went into a local bar.  The bar’s owner had been watch­ing the tour­ists being preyed upon by the touts.

“You watch them,” he said point­ing with a smile.  “They rip you off”

“Thanks,” I said and ordered some drinks.

“We have just been in Cam­bodia,” Cesca ven­tured as he opened the fridge to col­lect our Pepsi. “We know all about being gouged”.

“Good for you,” he said, “One guy, in here the other night, had a big bill but not enough money.  I sent him out­side to get some from ATM.  He go get a taxi.  The taxi tell him, ‘oh its miles to ATM I take you’.   Drives him round and round for ages.  Finds ATM.  He then pays $20 to come back here.  I say, ‘What took you so long?’  He tell me.  I take him out­side and point across road.  ATM is right there!”

We all laughed.

“Yes, taxi take him around block 10 times and back to this ATM!”

He offered us our drinks.

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Sai­gon beer, a great little drop

Even­tu­ally a little walk­ing and invest­ig­at­ory work found a small street lined with cheap gues­t­houses and we took a room in one of those for $15.  For that price in Viet­nam you get a basic hotel room with AC and TV.  There isn’t really a true back­pack­ers level below this where you can save even more and get just a bed, instead Viet­nam has mul­ti­tudes of these mini hotels.  Some strange fea­ture they all have is that in tax is paid on the amount of land you have built on.  There­fore all hotels are exceed­ingly thin and very tall.  They also don’t believe in lifts.  Stair­case after stair­case awaits you.  We soon learned to try for lower rooms.  One advant­age of the upper decks is that if your hotel does not have WIFI you can often leach it from mul­tiple broad­cast­ing net­works in the area.  WIFI is very easy to get in Vietnam.

Our first task was to change our flights to Bangkok and India as our itin­er­ary had changed enough to mean that we could no longer make those date. This required we visit the offices of Cathay Pacific.  I was expect­ing a sim­ilar night­mare to the last occa­sion we tried to change flights, which res­ul­ted in us being mis­treated by Quantas in Wel­ling­ton, New Zea­l­and.  In con­trast, Cathay Pacific were very help­ful and pro­fes­sional and we were out of there quick smart.

That done, we walked back to the tour­ist quarter on foot.  The streets were throng­ing with more scoot­ers than I could count and cross­ing the roads became an exer­cise in forced non­chal­ance.  The trick is that scoot­ers will drive around you if you walk slow enough, cars and busses will run you over.

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Try cross­ing this road at night, easy?

On our way back we found a French Bakery on a corner, which was serving all sorts of deli­cious cakes and buns.  Yummy!  That even­ing we ate in the tour­ist quarter on the corner, and watched as the world went by.  Every two of three minutes a tout would appear out of the hordes of people and try and sell us some­thing.  Nor­mally I would send these away and nurse my Sai­gon beer, but one guy caught my eye.  He had a stack of books for sale.  One was the Lonely Planet Viet­nam.  I asked how much,

“10 dol­lar” He said get­ting the book form the stack.  I took a look, it was the stand­ard pho­to­copied fake, but quite a good one.

“I will give you 4 dollars”

He man­aged to look like I had just insul­ted his mother.

“Not pos­sible, I buy for 8 dollars”

“I have seen this for sale for 4 dol­lars across town”

He man­aged this time to look like I had called his grandma a liar.

“This is latest edi­tion, very good quality”

I smiled, “4 dol­lars mate, that’s what I will pay.”

He picked the book back up in dis­gust, placed it back in the stack and walked off into the crowd.

I nursed my beer and Cesca and I chat­ted, then our food arrived and we munched hap­pily while people watch­ing.  A few minutes later the book seller arrived back at our table.

“4 dol­lars, ok!” he said.

I passed over the notes and he passed the book.  Then he gave me a really big smile and walked off.

“Per­haps you should have gone for 2 dol­lars,” offered Cesca.

“I sus­pect he pays only 10 dol­lars for 20 of them, or somesuch,” I replied thumb­ing through the book and eye­ing the remain­ing pizza.

The next day we went to visit the War Rem­nants Museum in the north part of the city centre.  This large col­lec­tion of build­ings is hid­den by a high wall.  Its loc­a­tion is obvi­ous – it’s the one with all the touts out­side.  We arrived to find it closed for lunch, so we took that as our cue to go find a good bite ourselves.

The newly acquired LP sug­ges­ted the French Style Café called the “Le Finetra de Soliel” that was sup­posedly a short walk away.  After ten minutes of fruit­less search we were about to give up when a sign over a indis­tinct door caught my eye.

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The non descript entrance

The sign was the name we were look­ing for, but where was the café?  I ven­tured inside and Cesca followed.

“It can’t be up there,” she said.

“Si a Todo,” I replied, which means “Yes to everything” in Span­ish and had become some­what of a man­tra for try­ing new things. We went up the stairs.

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At the top we found a filthy cor­ridor more like some­thing out of a crack-den epis­ode of The Bill.

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Down this and the second cor­ridor on the right revealed the secret: a beau­ti­ful and very high class café was hid­den up here!

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We ordered some food and drinks and laughed about the secret­ive nature of this place, from the small sign, the dingy door, the dodgy stairs and the dan­ger­ous look­ing cor­ridor.  Si a todo had come to the res­cue again.

We returned to the War Rem­nants Museum.

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This museum is split into a num­ber of dif­fer­ing parts.  First comes a large sec­tion about how the war star­ted, and how the American’s and French are mainly to blame.  I found such fin­ger point­ing to be quite refresh­ing.  The Viet­namese have no doubt about who caused the war.  Wall after wall showed broken UN res­ol­u­tions and prom­ises by the Imperialists.

After this came a sec­tion ded­ic­ated to the war pho­to­graph­ers on both sides who had died in he con­flict that was called “Requiem”.

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We had met the man who set this exhib­i­tion up, Tim Page, when in Cam­bodia where he presen­ted some of his work and answered ques­tions from the crowd.  See­ing the actual col­lec­tion after meet­ing one of the dead’s friends was much more emo­tional and we spent a good hour in there.

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The next sec­tion is the main build­ing and here things got a little more grisly.  This was the sec­tion about War Crimes.  Spe­cific­ally, Amer­ican war crimes.  From the fam­ous mas­sacre of Wai Lai, where the US killed all the men, women and chil­dren in cold blood exe­cu­tion style and then tried to cover it up.  It also showed a wall of the hor­rible effects of the vari­ous “agents” the US dropped on the coun­try, includ­ing the hideous Agent Orange, which con­tains the deadly poison Dioxin.  Hun­dreds of thou­sands have been affected by this stuff get­ting into the water, or even get­ting some dir­ectly on them.  The res­ult­ing birth defects are terrible.

Also in this sec­tion was wall after wall of US weapons and an explan­a­tion of their power.

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Amer­ican weaponry

There were many people in the museum when we vis­ited, mainly school chil­dren on out­ings.  What they make of such hor­rors is anyone’s guess.

The next build­ing was a graphic rep­res­ent­a­tion of a prison from the Diem Gov­ern­ment (the US backed gov­ern­ment that the VC fought against).  The accus­a­tion was that the Diem régime had been bloodthirsty in put­ting down polit­ical act­iv­ists and had gone so far as mur­der­ing them with the Guil­lot­ine which was on dis­play out the back.

Finally came the sec­tion ded­ic­ated to those coun­tries that opposed the Viet­nam War.  Posters, pic­tures of ral­lies and flags from all over the world showed what the world thought of this war once the facts star­ted to come out.

It was in here that I saw some­thing that really got me misty.  One glass cab­inet con­tained a col­lec­tion of US war medals won by a Ser­geant in the US army.  It was dis­played along­side a let­ter from the man, say­ing how sorry he was for what he had done and how he had been wrong.

Although the War Rem­nants Museum is dif­fi­cult to stom­ach in places, it was here that I first got the sense of pride the Viet­namese have about this war.  For them this is the war that earned them their coun­try back and put paid to gen­er­a­tions of for­eign mas­ters, be they French, Japan­ese or US.  The Viet­namese really did see the war as a war of lib­er­a­tion, in exactly the same sense that the US see’s the War of Inde­pend­ence and I star­ted to feel bet­ter about it.  Cross­ing a river of blood in the name of free­dom is some­thing I think most coun­tries would accept and think was a price worth paying.

So, whereas all my life I had seen the Viet­nam war from the US side and had been inden­tured in the shame the US feels about los­ing, here sud­denly I saw the same hor­rors but seen from a per­spect­ive of hon­our­ing those who fought for free­dom.  No guilt at all.  Sim­ilar to how my coun­try hon­ours those who died fight­ing the Ger­mans in WWII, be they killed in the Blitz or on the battle fields.

I sud­denly real­ised that Viet­nam was not going to be like I had expec­ted and I was rather glad about that.

Part two com­ing soon…

Basho.

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