Comments on: 300 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/ Travel writing, reviews, philosophy and airsoft Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Basho http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-10511 Basho Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:52:18 +0000 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-10511 The Athenians were, as we would term it, "homosexual", just read Plato to see that. However, as I said, you cannot apply modern ideas to Greece and certainly not to Sparta. Modern views of sexuality have absolutely no bearing on ancient ones. For example in, "The Republic," Plato says that is immoral to sleep with a man, '...after his beard starts to show.' In other words, sleeping with boys was fine. Obviously, to modern people this is the most heinous of crimes. I, personally, would not want to live in ancient Sparta as life there was no picnic and my modern mind would hate it. They <em>did </em>wear breastplates, all hoplites did. The Athenians were, as we would term it, “homosexual”, just read Plato to see that. However, as I said, you cannot apply modern ideas to Greece and certainly not to Sparta. Modern views of sexuality have absolutely no bearing on ancient ones. For example in, “The Republic,” Plato says that is immoral to sleep with a man, ‘…after his beard starts to show.’ In other words, sleeping with boys was fine. Obviously, to modern people this is the most heinous of crimes.

I, personally, would not want to live in ancient Sparta as life there was no picnic and my modern mind would hate it.

They did wear breastplates, all hoplites did.

]]> By: Basho http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-11543 Basho Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:52:00 +0000 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-11543 The Athenians were, as we would term it, "homosexual", just read Plato to see that. However, as I said, you cannot apply modern ideas to Greece and certainly not to Sparta. Modern views of sexuality have absolutely no bearing on ancient ones. For example in, "The Republic," Plato says that is immoral to sleep with a man, '...after his beard starts to show.' In other words, sleeping with boys was fine. Obviously, to modern people this is the most heinous of crimes. I, personally, would not want to live in ancient Sparta as life there was no picnic and my modern mind would hate it. They <em>did </em>wear breastplates, all hoplites did. The Athenians were, as we would term it, “homosexual”, just read Plato to see that. However, as I said, you cannot apply modern ideas to Greece and certainly not to Sparta. Modern views of sexuality have absolutely no bearing on ancient ones. For example in, “The Republic,” Plato says that is immoral to sleep with a man, ‘…after his beard starts to show.’ In other words, sleeping with boys was fine. Obviously, to modern people this is the most heinous of crimes.

I, personally, would not want to live in ancient Sparta as life there was no picnic and my modern mind would hate it.

They did wear breastplates, all hoplites did.

]]> By: Ben http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-9814 Ben Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:05:50 +0000 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-9814 I didn't see the spartans comb their hair(spartan custom). Thespians actually stayed behind, thebans surrenderd to persians. 2 spartans survived(messenger + orator) messenger commited suicide. ALEX: Evidence points to a Bronze Cuirrass or a linothorax (series of bronze discs tied together, more flexible). Just some facts you should know, good review and movie I didn’t see the spartans comb their hair(spartan custom). Thespians actually stayed behind, thebans surrenderd to persians. 2 spartans survived(messenger + orator) messenger commited suicide. ALEX: Evidence points to a Bronze Cuirrass or a linothorax (series of bronze discs tied together, more flexible). Just some facts you should know, good review and movie

]]> By: Ben http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-11542 Ben Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:05:00 +0000 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-11542 I didn't see the spartans comb their hair(spartan custom). Thespians actually stayed behind, thebans surrenderd to persians. 2 spartans survived(messenger + orator) messenger commited suicide. ALEX: Evidence points to a Bronze Cuirrass or a linothorax (series of bronze discs tied together, more flexible). Just some facts you should know, good review and movie I didn’t see the spartans comb their hair(spartan custom). Thespians actually stayed behind, thebans surrenderd to persians. 2 spartans survived(messenger + orator) messenger commited suicide. ALEX: Evidence points to a Bronze Cuirrass or a linothorax (series of bronze discs tied together, more flexible). Just some facts you should know, good review and movie

]]> By: Ben http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-9813 Ben Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:24:52 +0000 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-9813 Adding on, its we dine in hades not hell, spartan spears were 8ft to 10ft long they used them over-arm, macedonians used under arm cause their spears were 15-18ft long. Spartan babies were not killed but taken and raised by helots, ephors were men over 20 in for a one year stint, their were two kings, councilmen all 60+. persian immortals used wicker shield, spear and bow, misnamed/translated by ancient historian actually companions. No rhinos not an animal you can control. Adding on, its we dine in hades not hell, spartan spears were 8ft to 10ft long they used them over-arm, macedonians used under arm cause their spears were 15-18ft long. Spartan babies were not killed but taken and raised by helots, ephors were men over 20 in for a one year stint, their were two kings, councilmen all 60+. persian immortals used wicker shield, spear and bow, misnamed/translated by ancient historian actually companions. No rhinos not an animal you can control.

]]> By: Ben http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-11541 Ben Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:24:00 +0000 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-11541 Adding on, its we dine in hades not hell, spartan spears were 8ft to 10ft long they used them over-arm, macedonians used under arm cause their spears were 15-18ft long. Spartan babies were not killed but taken and raised by helots, ephors were men over 20 in for a one year stint, their were two kings, councilmen all 60+. persian immortals used wicker shield, spear and bow, misnamed/translated by ancient historian actually companions. No rhinos not an animal you can control. Adding on, its we dine in hades not hell, spartan spears were 8ft to 10ft long they used them over-arm, macedonians used under arm cause their spears were 15-18ft long. Spartan babies were not killed but taken and raised by helots, ephors were men over 20 in for a one year stint, their were two kings, councilmen all 60+. persian immortals used wicker shield, spear and bow, misnamed/translated by ancient historian actually companions. No rhinos not an animal you can control.

]]> By: Ben http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-9812 Ben Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:10:03 +0000 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-9812 They said Hercules, he was roman heracles was greek and after a child joined a garrison in the agoge system he was paired up with a older male and they did have sexual relations, so by terming the Athenians who to our knowledge did not support homosexuality, the spartans where insulting themselves. Ohh and what about the helots they all perished aswell, along with a few soldiers from differnet city states who stayed back. Was a good movie but was not a documentory! They said Hercules, he was roman heracles was greek and after a child joined a garrison in the agoge system he was paired up with a older male and they did have sexual relations, so by terming the Athenians who to our knowledge did not support homosexuality, the spartans where insulting themselves. Ohh and what about the helots they all perished aswell, along with a few soldiers from differnet city states who stayed back. Was a good movie but was not a documentory!

]]> By: Ben http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-11540 Ben Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:10:00 +0000 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-11540 They said Hercules, he was roman heracles was greek and after a child joined a garrison in the agoge system he was paired up with a older male and they did have sexual relations, so by terming the Athenians who to our knowledge did not support homosexuality, the spartans where insulting themselves. Ohh and what about the helots they all perished aswell, along with a few soldiers from differnet city states who stayed back. Was a good movie but was not a documentory! They said Hercules, he was roman heracles was greek and after a child joined a garrison in the agoge system he was paired up with a older male and they did have sexual relations, so by terming the Athenians who to our knowledge did not support homosexuality, the spartans where insulting themselves. Ohh and what about the helots they all perished aswell, along with a few soldiers from differnet city states who stayed back. Was a good movie but was not a documentory!

]]> By: Alex http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-9773 Alex Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:25:53 +0000 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-9773 I also would like to add that Xerxes, according to persian legend, was a God from heaven and these God's were giants in the old myths of the ancient world. I'm not saying it's true, but it's another way of looking at it and i makes sense when you see that he is huge in the film. I also would like to add that Xerxes, according to persian legend, was a God from heaven and these God’s were giants in the old myths of the ancient world. I’m not saying it’s true, but it’s another way of looking at it and i makes sense when you see that he is huge in the film.

]]> By: Alex http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-11539 Alex Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:25:00 +0000 http://www.outsidecontext.com/2007/03/23/300/#comment-11539 I also would like to add that Xerxes, according to persian legend, was a God from heaven and these God's were giants in the old myths of the ancient world. I'm not saying it's true, but it's another way of looking at it and i makes sense when you see that he is huge in the film. I also would like to add that Xerxes, according to persian legend, was a God from heaven and these God’s were giants in the old myths of the ancient world. I’m not saying it’s true, but it’s another way of looking at it and i makes sense when you see that he is huge in the film.

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